Comments for Deaf Blawg http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg Deaf musings of a legal nature Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:33:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Tribunal advocacy by Alison http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/tribunal-advocacy/#comment-37930 Alison Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:33:12 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/2010/03/tribunal-advocacy/#comment-37930 This situation isn't just limited to employment tribunals (I've sat in them myself). It is part of a much bigger problem, of lack of voice over training for interpreters. Interpreters too often can do English > BSL, but turn it the other way and it starts to get more of a nightmare. Particularly problematic in any legal situation, including academic ones. Only last week, I had to give up trying to explain something pertaining to Jurisprudence because the interpreter failed to voice over correctly. Interpreters are supposed to work both ways, and this comes down to training. This situation isn’t just limited to employment tribunals (I’ve sat in them myself). It is part of a much bigger problem, of lack of voice over training for interpreters. Interpreters too often can do English > BSL, but turn it the other way and it starts to get more of a nightmare.

Particularly problematic in any legal situation, including academic ones. Only last week, I had to give up trying to explain something pertaining to Jurisprudence because the interpreter failed to voice over correctly.

Interpreters are supposed to work both ways, and this comes down to training.

]]> Comment on Tribunal advocacy by Dafydd http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/tribunal-advocacy/#comment-37929 Dafydd Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:16:45 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/2010/03/tribunal-advocacy/#comment-37929 Request funding for interpreters to learn the legal system and jargon? Request funding for interpreters to learn the legal system and jargon?

]]> Comment on Personal update by Ian http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/personal-update/#comment-35802 Ian Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:59:27 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=144#comment-35802 I have had the same experience, not in law but IT. The real problem is recruitment agencies who are acting on your behalf so you are automatically at a disadvantage if you are deaf and unable to hear on the phone. Personally I'm of the opinion that your chances of securing employment are better served by dealing with companies directly rather than through a third party. After all you know how frustrating it can be using Typetalk! Easier said than done. And a lot of them try to cut costs by trying to arrange a telephone interview which effectively rules you out. Unfortunately companies now use recruitment agencies to employ people for them. And unfortunately the old adage 'I'm Deaf' still applies. While they will not say that you did not get the job because of your deafness, subtle discrimination does and still exists. I have had the same experience, not in law but IT.

The real problem is recruitment agencies who are acting on your behalf so you are automatically at a disadvantage if you are deaf and unable to hear on the phone.

Personally I’m of the opinion that your chances of securing employment are better served by dealing with companies directly rather than through a third party. After all you know how frustrating it can be using Typetalk! Easier said than done.

And a lot of them try to cut costs by trying to arrange a telephone interview which effectively rules you out.

Unfortunately companies now use recruitment agencies to employ people for them. And unfortunately the old adage ‘I’m Deaf’ still applies. While they will not say that you did not get the job because of your deafness, subtle discrimination does and still exists.

]]> Comment on Deaf Solicitor by Samantha http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-solicitor/#comment-26814 Samantha Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:54:13 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=146#comment-26814 Does deaf people suffer with getting wrong advice from professional e.g. mortgage filling forms without interpreter as they said it all correct and then it turn out to be a nightmare due to the incorrect information and they said it your responsible and you knew what you were doing as we didn't know what we did wrong there?? Then lost everything... Does that happen with a lot of deaf people or not?? As we don't trust professional anymore due to what happened to us!!! We have lost our home and the council wrong provide us a house as they said we knew what we did wrong etc but we didn't know what we did wrong and also my husband who is proundly deaf have got the sack from his employer last year that where we got advise to sell the property that we couldn't keep up with the mortgage and told advice from the mortgage company to sell it and also the protection company cancelled the policy with out informing us as they said that i ask for it to be cancelled thought type talk and i said no I ask for a direct debit form not to have it cancelled as if i want to change bank that all and i decided to stay where it was... and they cancelled it i got all the paperwork as need to go thought it where it wrong... also the solicitor decided to pull out as he didn't provide an interpreter as he said it too expensive and then he said we got a weak case but not putting in place that the fact that we are deaf different matter it... i don't understand anymore you are my last hope. I am very down and upset with it all... my husband did take the employer to court but had a crap rep who mess it up not full deaf awareness and the employer got away with it... we have lost everything our home... then my husband lost his job by got the sack for no reason... and giving wrong advice... I didn't want to ask my parents for help as i want to learn how to deal with it myself as my parents are not going to be there forever and now this mess... the council wont give us a place to live.. and now we are scared because we are in a private rent accommodation but need the special equipments and lots of landlords can be funny about it as I know due to my friends have problems with it... i cant keep fighting for the rest of our lives all the time.. I got two children one is 2 and another one is 4 months... i had a hell of a pregnancy and still now with it all... I really need help.. the social worker for the deaf wont help and support me... they mess up the form... and they said i signed it and it my responsible but i was told it was all correct etc... as some of the english grammer i dont understand they use strong english etc... we were given wrong advice from mortgage people, solicitors, cab, social services, council, job centre mess up things for my husband job etc as there were going to help him and then they said they cant.... My husband now suffering anxiety after what happened with the employer...he is going counseling now after been waiting for counseling over 1 year.... I am trying to sort out our lives and trying to be strong for the kids... I feel that I am falling apart because of this.. and need someone to help to correct the information's the council still got incorrect information and wont change it and they said we made ourselves homeless but we never did because of my husband got the sack and explained to them it harder for a deaf people to get a job quickly... etc... they don't want to know... how come the aboard people get the council place so quick and we are disabled and no to us.... I am very confessed and don't understand any of this... I got no where to turn on this... my life is falling apart from this.. seems to be a crazy world we are in now... if you need to see all the paper work that is fine will need to see you face to face you might need to come to my house. It a lot more as it a very big issue this is and need help to sort this out who have a understanding of deafness etc and other things that needs.. Please help me to sort this matter out. Samantha Does deaf people suffer with getting wrong advice from professional e.g. mortgage filling forms without interpreter as they said it all correct and then it turn out to be a nightmare due to the incorrect information and they said it your responsible and you knew what you were doing as we didn’t know what we did wrong there?? Then lost everything… Does that happen with a lot of deaf people or not?? As we don’t trust professional anymore due to what happened to us!!! We have lost our home and the council wrong provide us a house as they said we knew what we did wrong etc but we didn’t know what we did wrong and also my husband who is proundly deaf have got the sack from his employer last year that where we got advise to sell the property that we couldn’t keep up with the mortgage and told advice from the mortgage company to sell it and also the protection company cancelled the policy with out informing us as they said that i ask for it to be cancelled thought type talk and i said no I ask for a direct debit form not to have it cancelled as if i want to change bank that all and i decided to stay where it was… and they cancelled it i got all the paperwork as need to go thought it where it wrong… also the solicitor decided to pull out as he didn’t provide an interpreter as he said it too expensive and then he said we got a weak case but not putting in place that the fact that we are deaf different matter it… i don’t understand anymore you are my last hope.

I am very down and upset with it all… my husband did take the employer to court but had a crap rep who mess it up not full deaf awareness and the employer got away with it… we have lost everything our home… then my husband lost his job by got the sack for no reason… and giving wrong advice… I didn’t want to ask my parents for help as i want to learn how to deal with it myself as my parents are not going to be there forever and now this mess… the council wont give us a place to live.. and now we are scared because we are in a private rent accommodation but need the special equipments and lots of landlords can be funny about it as I know due to my friends have problems with it… i cant keep fighting for the rest of our lives all the time.. I got two children one is 2 and another one is 4 months… i had a hell of a pregnancy and still now with it all… I really need help.. the social worker for the deaf wont help and support me… they mess up the form… and they said i signed it and it my responsible but i was told it was all correct etc… as some of the english grammer i dont understand they use strong english etc… we were given wrong advice from mortgage people, solicitors, cab, social services, council, job centre mess up things for my husband job etc as there were going to help him and then they said they cant….

My husband now suffering anxiety after what happened with the employer…he is going counseling now after been waiting for counseling over 1 year…. I am trying to sort out our lives and trying to be strong for the kids… I feel that I am falling apart because of this.. and need someone to help to correct the information’s the council still got incorrect information and wont change it and they said we made ourselves homeless but we never did because of my husband got the sack and explained to them it harder for a deaf people to get a job quickly… etc… they don’t want to know… how come the aboard people get the council place so quick and we are disabled and no to us…. I am very confessed and don’t understand any of this…

I got no where to turn on this… my life is falling apart from this.. seems to be a crazy world we are in now… if you need to see all the paper work that is fine will need to see you face to face you might need to come to my house.

It a lot more as it a very big issue this is and need help to sort this out who have a understanding of deafness etc and other things that needs..

Please help me to sort this matter out.

Samantha

]]> Comment on Deaf Solicitor by Legal Training Contracts http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-solicitor/#comment-25847 Legal Training Contracts Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:51:48 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=146#comment-25847 I commend and congratulate you on your accomplishment, and I can only hope that the rest of us are just as successful, as I have yet to land a good legal training contract myself, but I am keeping my hopes up. Like you, I believe that hard work and study do pay off in the end. I commend and congratulate you on your accomplishment, and I can only hope that the rest of us are just as successful, as I have yet to land a good legal training contract myself, but I am keeping my hopes up. Like you, I believe that hard work and study do pay off in the end.

]]> Comment on Deaf Student Lodges Disability Discrimination Claim Against the London Metropolitan University by Jonathan http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-student-lodges-disability-discrimination-claim-against-the-london-metropolitan-university/#comment-22974 Jonathan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:59:06 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=147#comment-22974 I had personally succeeded with a claim against the then Department for Constitutional Affairs (DCA), now Ministry of Justice, because the Peterborough County Court refused to provide a BSL Interpreter for a scheduled hearing. The case settled out of court. I had personally succeeded with a claim against the then Department for Constitutional Affairs (DCA), now Ministry of Justice, because the Peterborough County Court refused to provide a BSL Interpreter for a scheduled hearing. The case settled out of court.

]]> Comment on Deaf Solicitor by Jonathan http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-solicitor/#comment-22973 Jonathan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:52:34 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=146#comment-22973 Congratulations on qualifying as a solicitor Rob! Congratulations on qualifying as a solicitor Rob!

]]> Comment on Deaf Student Lodges Disability Discrimination Claim Against the London Metropolitan University by David http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-student-lodges-disability-discrimination-claim-against-the-london-metropolitan-university/#comment-18337 David Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:23:43 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=147#comment-18337 I agree with all you say we feel the same the deaf do not get enough help they dont seem to be classed as disabled but people should try being in there shoes they would soon be moaning, Please keep up your good work. I agree with all you say we feel the same the deaf do not get enough help they dont seem to be classed as disabled but people should try being in there shoes they would soon be moaning,
Please keep up your good work.

]]> Comment on Deaf Solicitor by Katie http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-solicitor/#comment-5670 Katie Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:17:08 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=146#comment-5670 You are an inspiration. I am on the LPC at the moment. I am working non stop. literally. I work all morning, go into college, come home and work til sometimes 1am. Reading your blog has made me realise that it will all be worth while. Well done. You are an inspiration. I am on the LPC at the moment. I am working non stop. literally. I work all morning, go into college, come home and work til sometimes 1am. Reading your blog has made me realise that it will all be worth while.
Well done.

]]> Comment on Deaf Solicitor by John Power http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/deaf-solicitor/#comment-5451 John Power Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:01:35 +0000 http://www.deaflawyers.org.uk/blawg/?p=146#comment-5451 I like your story. Keep going! I like your story. Keep going!

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